Free Jammu: "whats with this blogger from the valley?he really seems to overwhelmed by having witnessed snowfall,having worn a firan,or having eaten waazwan and all that balderdash.Well there are a few other things also that he should identify his goodself and his valley with,may be he should also seek pride in the ethnic cleansing and the jihad ,the terrorism that kashmir is so synonymous with, may be he should also understand that if at all there are any aboriginals of and from the valley, it is only the kashmiri pandits rest are all invaders,who came and settled there!and as far as wearing a firan goes,who the hell wants to wear that smelly old rug,which reminds of nothing but anachronism. "
Jammu United: "What’s with this blogger from the valley,he really seems to be a connoisseur (though a self proclaimed one,like most of these kashmiris!)all so full of logic and data,well i hope that somewhere in there he also has a small(if at all!) mention of the rather abysmal exit of the kashmiri hindus, the aboriginal kashmiris(rest are all non state subjects!!), hope he also has a data regarding the temples that have been desecrated in the valley, hope he is also aware of the fact that it was his kashmiri brethen who opposed installation of mahatama gandhi’s(symbol of tolerance and peace across the globe) statue in the kashmir high court, but all so gladly accept gandhi in their pockets!!hope somewhere in his data he also has this mention of the plight of his kashmiri brethen in the pak occupied kashmir,and not to talk of mohajirs,the balochs etc. who are so proud to be a part pakistan that all so magnanimous,purely islamic country!"
Blogger-Jammu: "dear blogger kashmir
Since you people are so intelligent to our facts..please let us know your utlimate aims?Why are you so busy correcting/cleasing/misinterpretating general knowlwdge.In all aspects you have 3 options:
1. Stay with us, i.e. INDIA.we`ve all ways treated you like our misbehaved/rotten brothers. We`ll continue to feed you with essential commodities, food supplies, money, central packages, developmemtal work etc. ( All for our motherland HINDUSTAN)
2. Fight with us, leave us and goto the Mighty Pakisthan - the country with ISLAMIC rules. We would be more than happy to see our rotten brother happy. But come to think of it, how and where would you sell those apples, those shawls, those carvings, or nights at dal lake? whom? i bet pakishan with its poor poor people would be more than willing to pay.Fact: pak population 144 million.Poverty rate 35%Ref: CIA Factbook.I`m sure how big a buying power Pakistan is. BIG BIG Industrialised economy of pak.
3. BE independent of INDIA & Pakistan. - This one is a real joke.
If you are independent of us, then:you get no subsidised essentials, no telecom, no tax breaks, no cheap food, no cheap labour, no access to our vast capital base, no army protection, amogst others.China, a dictatorship, is more than willing to attck u, to show its superamacy in the region. Pak, with nothin to show off really, would still try n attack, to salvage pride.kashmir would be the worlds biggest terrorist school, a haven for al quidas and SIMIs..America would be more than willing to attck and invade you. The best base america can get, seeing the approxmity with CHINDIA.
So, while u decide, i`ll have to get back to work, as you are my liability rite now, if i dont earn, how you get subsidised food, great rail, air, road connect, huge central packages, subsidies for haj ..etc…etc.."
Anonymous: "Kashmirs are the most intelligent people in the world. Fact: more than 12000 deaths since 1947"
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the irony of leaving a comment just to say that this doesn't deserve one.
However, there is one thing. I saw that two of the authors have suggested that, what they like to call, the aboriginals of Kashmir are the Kashmiri Pundits and the Kashmiri Muslims, “ the non-state subjects”, “all of them”, are the invaders or settlers who came from outside. Certainly, due to the forgetful nature of time, there exists no empirical evidence, which these authors can produce, to support this surmise. But we can, however, try to theorize taking into account certain known facts and experiences of other cultures. As far as “mythology” goes, I remember reading somewhere that it was Kashyp Rishi (the word Kashmir apparently derived from his name) a scholar from India who traveled north in search of greater truth or some such thing and finally reached the valley. After killing all the “demons” (Jalad Bhava, the leader of demons translates into “Water-Demon”), who might as well have been the local populace, decided to settle there along with his followers. This might give us a picture of who might be the “aboriginals” and who the foreigners in the Kashmir. It usually happens that whenever invaders come and settle in a place, the local population does all it can to distance itself from such invaders. This might explain the overnight conversion of the entire Kashmiri population to Islam. It is always the higher class, the ruling class that rejects change and tries to maintain status quo and in turn retain the power they have over the lower strata of the society. Maybe this is the reason why the decedents of Kashyp Rishi didn’t convert to Islam and preferred to carry on with the religion passed on to them by their forefathers. Kashmiri Pundits have always been the more influential, more educated class in Kashmir, a fact that they should be proud of. But one has to wonder why this distinction cuts across two criterions. Why one set of people were, both more powerful and at the same time of a particular faith? The only “logical” (we are famous for that, aren’t we?) conclusion can be drawn is that it is Kashmiri Pundits who are the decedents of foreign settlers and maybe that’s the reason why they find it so easy to dismiss every, political, historical and cultural, peculiarity of Kashmir and identify themselves with the Indian Dominion.
For authors, the above comments are not even offensive...
Difficult it might seem for a common reader to understand why I say this, but there is a "logic" to it as well!! We also have logic..
In our town, abuses seem to have been nurtured in the local language in the most immaculate way. So much so that abuses like Teri maa ki, teri payn ki....(and many more which I find it quite embarassing to put here) are so common that they appear like pronunciation marks!!!
Such common commas, fullstops and punctuation marks are supposed to be quite derogatory on your side of the Pir Panchal..(while on the our side these words are embedded in the language and are used as fluently as the language itself )
So in my opinion, such remarks should be benchmarked against the level of communication standards that have evolved in the civilization of the language over the centuries and should not be seen in isolation.
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