Saturday, October 25, 2008

Insights for a Pro-Azadi Kashmiri...

(Response to a recent comment on my post: Time for Introspection.... , relevant for many pro-azadi kashmiris..)
Dear Anonymous,
It is very easy to post a comment without thinking about the implications.
Why do you think that when 100Crore people in India have a say in their future, much better than rest of the developing countries, (even incomparable to Pakistan!!), a mere 70 lakh people would have a problem? (70 Lakh include population from Rajauri, Poonch, Doda, Kupwara, Baramulla, Srinagar, Badgam, Pulwama and Anantnag as per old district setup, 2001 census)
The problem is that we Kashmiris never think.
Suppose you get the "Azaadi" that you demand. Would you then be able to decide your "future"?Who will decide it?
Your Hurriyat Leaders, who keep on changing their allegience every now and then? And have hoarded their houses with money flowing in from different agencies? And live under Indian security shouting slogans of Azadi? And spend Indian taxpayers money for innumerable five-star treatments?
Or the two Lone brothers, who find it difficult to accept even each other?
Or the innumerable tanzeems and Ikhwanis who were active a few years back? (Who will certainly be revived in case you get your "Azadi")? Who killed people for ransom, and for settling personal scores?
Or the Muftis? about who I need not comment.
And how do you define "say in future". There cant be an idealistic state. To be practical, we have to compare the "say in future" we have, to existing countries around us. And let me tell with pride that India is amongst the top ones in the list.
Now coming to sustainability, that you "feel" is not an issue.
What is our population today? 70 Lacs....
Out of these, how many do you think would be young people? say 30% which makes it 21 Lacs.Out of these how many do you think will join your army? Even if the number is 1% (The % for India, which has one of the largest Army in the world, is 0.25%) that makes it just around 21,000 (After considering a 4-times turn out of 1% from 0.25%)
Today, our forces, excluding Police, are estimated at 7,00,000 who protect our borders against Pakistan & China directly and against innumerable countries indirectly.How do you think you are going to address to this issue with just 21,000 people (By exaggerated estimates)?
Today you talk about "say in future" because you are in India. God forbid, if you have what you desire, you would no longer talk about these issues. And I need not say what the new issues would be.
Official estimates claim that more than 7,00,000 people have been killed in Afghanistan. They dont have proper systems for health, education, sanitation, governance and the people cannot have a "say in their future" Do we want this for us?
If educated people (Educated because so far we are not Afghanistan) like us start neglegting the issues of sustainence and stability, we have no locus-standi to pass judgements about the future of 70 Lac people, whose future depends upon opinion of each one of us.
This is just about military stability. I can go on and on and give insights about political, social, economic security and stability. But I want you, and people like you to ponder over what we realy want for ourselves...

13 comments:

kashmir said...

Dear Badam waer,

Let me correct your knowledge the population some districts you have shown is incorrect Why?......... you did not mention how many Siaa community population is in these district and how many sunni muslims,how many gujjar,bakarwal and magray community population in rajori,poonch.First give the correct status.Bro.........first understan Jammu and kashmir issue i know you move in circle reaches to the same point you started because your alligation is bias and have no result.MY advice to Kashmiri muslims only sunni comunity first talk about aksai chin issue with china and pok and northern states to pakistan.

If you are real kashmiri blood of late 80's first polish your brain with humanity not religion.

www.kashmirihindu.wordpress.com

Anonymous said...

i have to give it to you man. This is the most senseless comment i have read in a long time. keep it up.:-D

Anonymous said...

well said kashmir.It is really heartening to see someone writing against an article written against the freedom of kashmir.i really cant understand how people continue to talk in favour of india even when so many kashmiris are being killed even now for just one reason - they participate in peaceful demonstrations for their right of self determination.hats off to u KASHMIRI

Anonymous said...

in this blog i have seen people being very shrewd.i have seen paople just trying to make a mark and put their points forward.First of all I please ask the need to create this blog.Im not against it but want to understand the motive behind creating this blog.Was this blog meant for creating hatred amongst people having different views or was this blog created as an attempt to atleast narrow thier differences.Was this blog created to hurt the sentiments of people of the valley who are otherwise already suffering, leave aside the reason for their suffering.Friends why cant we do something creative, why cant we do something for the people of the valley rather than writing articles that definitely hurt someone.

Anonymous said...

@kashir,

First shun voilance hatred towards india and hindus,siks,dogras and other communities.God has enlighted with education to all of you first be cool and think what i am doing is it right when call it human right voilation were where you Bro When pandits were killed thrown out from valley.

Sau chuha khake mullaha haj ko challah.

I know what will be your answer simply chemoleans something to pomp and show..........Forget about kashmir i am more worried about POK and Northen States.

So go into grass root level your brain will start thinking postively.

Anonymous said...

@kashir,

First shun voilance hatred towards india and hindus,siks,dogras and other communities.God has enlighted with education to all of you first be cool and think what i am doing is it right when call it human right voilation were where you Bro When pandits were killed thrown out from valley.

Sau chuha khake mullaha haj ko challah.

I know what will be your answer simply chemoleans something to pomp and show..........Forget about kashmir i am more worried about POK and Northen States.

So go into grass root level your brain will start thinking postively.

Anonymous said...

This ones for KP..Your allegations are so baseless.Why would we be against any of the other communities?we have nothing against hindus, sikhs dogras and other communities as you say.When the whole of India says that dragging hindus out of Kashmir was Jagmohan's move you are still singing the old hymns..come on man grow up.read something about history for heavens sake.And what grass root level are you talking about??And for your kind information its not POK(pakistan occupied kashmir), it's PAK(pakistan administered kashmir).the people of PAK dont feel shy of calling themselves pakistani's..

Unknown said...

@kashir
"dragging hindus out of kashmir was jagmohan's move"
peddling this sort of trash does not serve any purpose.if you believe in it it says a lot about what you claim to have read about history and where you read it from.
as far as PoK is concerned,one mistake that Indian governments have always made is that they have never challenged Pakistan's control of these northern territories.if you believe the pakistani version then the people of these territories collectively broke out in revolt against the indian government in 1947. while the indian version says that the region was run over by Afghan invaders led by pakistani army regulars. i'm sure the truth lies somewhere in between. to solve the kashmir issue we need to go back to the beginnings and determine beyond doubt what happened in 1947 and how legitimate is Pakistan's claim over the part of Kashmir it occupies.
if it can be credibly established that these territories acceded to Pakistan of their own accord and without any military intervention on it's part the focus can then move to the indian kashmir.
if however it is proved that the kashmir under pakistani control was acquired by means of force then pakistan' control over it would be illegitimate.
at the end of the there is only one solution to the kashmir issue day the kashmir issue - holding a plebiscite in the joint regions of J&K,PoK and Aksai Chin .

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